Simon Fell > Its just code

Wednesday, April 10, 2002

Hey James relax, I'll try and remember to put smileys on my posts next time :)
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Microsoft, I.B.M. and VeriSign to Cooperate on Web Security. Microsoft, I.B.M. and VeriSign plan to announce a new technical approach that they hope will ensure greater security and thus stimulate commercial development of Web services. By Steve Lohr. [New York Times: Technology] Sounds like there's going to be a new version of WS-Security coming down the pipe.
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Microsoft Has Shelved Its Internet 'Persona' Service. Microsoft has quietly shelved a consumer information service that was once planned as the centerpiece of the company's foray into the market for tightly linked Web services. By John Markoff. [New York Times: Technology] Not a big shock. I wonder what'll happen to Passport and .NET Alerts ?
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Evolving Interfaces : This takes the COM versioning model and applies to Web Services. As an old school COM guy, this makes sense to me, however, Microsoft themselves have ditched COM's versioning model (and lets face it, they were always the biggest culprits in not following it), the versioning model in the CLR allows for more interesting versioning scenarios, I'm surprised that they think the COM model is fine for Web Services. I agree with James's comment that types should be revised using XSD's derivation support. In answer to Sams' question about ASP.NET, I think the reason why ASP.NET just applies defaults has nothing to do with versioning, but was a simple speed/functionality trade-off. Its a pity that you don't get the option in ASP.NET to enable validation if you want it (Hey, Keith, this is on the todo list right ?). I believe that the version model Sam is pushing for makes a lot of sense, and feels more like the XML way, it'd be an interesting exercise to see if this is possible in any of the current toolkits.
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Sam & James have been debating this MSDN article by Scott Seely that discusses evolving SOAP / WSDL interfaces. I haven't had chance to read it yet, so will refrain from commenting, however past experience tells me that I could just agree with whatever Sam's saying, and save me the trouble of having to actually read it !
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Analysis: Microsoft fires back in Web services war [IDG InfoWorld] I'm sooo sick of reading about MSFT vs Sun.
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Eight new IIS security holes exposed. A patchy Web server [The Register]
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